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id
38
system
80 Kitchen
title
Master Dough — Large Loaf + Dessert Bread (Combined Batch, Split)
category
Bread
ingredients
[{"amount": 950, "unit": "g", "name": "bread flour (600g for the Large Loaf portion + 350g for the dessert portion, combined)"}, {"amount": 519, "unit": "g", "name": "water"}, {"amount": 190, "unit": "g", "name": "active sourdough starter"}, {"amount": 20.2, "unit": "g", "name": "salt"}, {"amount": 9.5, "unit": "g", "name": "malt"}, {"amount": 48, "unit": "g", "name": "oil"}, {"amount": 1, "unit": "whole", "name": "large egg (about 50g), lightly beaten"}, {"amount": 60, "unit": "g", "name": "honey (30g for each portion, combined here)"}, {"amount": 30, "unit": "g", "name": "granulated sugar -- FOR THE DESSERT PORTION ONLY, added after the split"}, {"amount": 1, "unit": "tsp", "name": "ground cinnamon -- FOR THE DESSERT PORTION ONLY, added after the split"}, {"amount": 90, "unit": "g", "name": "dried fruit (raisins, dried cranberries, and/or chopped dried apricots) -- FOR THE DESSERT PORTION ONLY, added after the split"}, {"amount": 55, "unit": "g", "name": "walnuts or pecans, toasted and roughly chopped -- FOR THE DESSERT PORTION ONLY, added after the split"}, {"amount": 0, "unit": "as needed", "name": "melted butter, for brushing both loaves after baking"}]
steps
[{"text": "Toast the nuts ahead of time: spread on a baking sheet, bake at 350F for 5-10min until fragrant, let cool, then roughly chop. Set aside for later -- these go into the dessert portion only, after the split."}, {"text": "Mix the master dough: 950g flour, 519g water, 190g starter, 20.2g salt, 9.5g malt, 48g oil, the beaten egg, and 60g honey until no dry bits remain. Do NOT add sugar, cinnamon, dried fruit, or nuts yet -- those come later, after the dough is split."}, {"text": "Rest 20-30min, then do one round of stretch & fold on the whole combined dough."}, {"text": "SPLIT THE DOUGH HERE. Weigh your ACTUAL combined dough on a scale first -- it'll vary a bit batch to batch from flour absorption, egg size, etc, so don't assume a fixed number. Then split it 63.2% / 36.8% by weight: multiply your actual total by 0.632 for the Large Loaf portion, and by 0.368 for the dessert portion (or just subtract the Large Loaf number from your total to get the dessert portion). Example: at the recipe's theoretical total of 1846.7g, that's 1166g / 680g -- but always use YOUR scale's actual number as the starting point, not this example."}, {"text": "LARGE LOAF PORTION: continue plain stretch & folds every 1hr (plus about 10min to actually do the fold each time) through bulk -- 2-3 more folds is typical."}, {"text": "DESSERT PORTION: fold in the 30g sugar and 1 tsp cinnamon first, then work in the 90g dried fruit and the cooled toasted nuts -- fold gently rather than kneading hard, just enough to distribute evenly. Continue with gentler stretch & folds every 1hr (plus about 10min to actually do the fold each time) through bulk -- 2-3 more rounds."}, {"text": "Bulk ferment BOTH portions separately until puffed and jiggly, not just risen -- judge each one by its own feel, not the clock. The dessert portion (extra sugar) may run a bit slower than the plain portion since sugar competes for water with the starter -- that's expected, not a problem."}, {"text": "SHAPE: Large Loaf portion into a round or batard (free-form), seam-side UP into your regular rattan banneton. Dessert portion into a smaller ROUND (boule), seam-side UP into a smaller banneton if you have one."}, {"text": "Proof both at room temp 1-2hr, or retard both in the fridge overnight -- either works for both portions."}, {"text": "Preheat your Dutch oven (lid on) to 450F for at least 30-45min. Bake the two loaves one after another (or in two Dutch ovens if you have them) -- they don't need to go in at exactly the same time."}, {"text": "LARGE LOAF: turn out, mist lightly with water, score shallow, into the hot Dutch oven lid on. Bake covered ~35-40min, then uncover for a SHORT 4-5min finish only -- watch closely, the egg browns faster than plain dough. Pull at 205-210F internal."}, {"text": "DESSERT LOAF: turn out, score lightly, into the hot Dutch oven lid on. Bake covered ~25-30min (shorter, it's smaller), then uncover 8-12min until golden -- watch closely, the sugar and fruit brown even faster than the egg loaf. Pull at 205-210F internal."}, {"text": "Both: remove from the Dutch oven right away, brush the top generously with melted butter while hot, cover loosely with a clean kitchen towel while cooling on a rack, and cool at least 1hr before slicing."}]
source
USR369
status
untested
version
1.0
last_updated
09/09/26
user_notes
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notes
NAMING (confirmed by USR369 09/09/26): the two portions in this recipe are the LARGE SOFT CRUST WITH EGG LOAF (recipe #36) and the DESSERT LOAF (recipe #37) -- use these names, not generic 'portion' labels, when logging or referring to either one. Combined master-dough version of Large Loaf -- Soft Crust with Egg (recipe #36) and Dried Fruit & Nut Dessert Bread (recipe #37) -- mix one big batch, split it after the first fold, finish each portion separately. This is the plan USR369 worked out for a workday bake: mix before 11am, split at the 1st or 2nd fold, shape and retard overnight, bake ~6-7am the next morning. HONEST NOTE ON RATIOS: combining both recipes' base ingredients into one dough means the blended hydration/percentages land somewhere between the two original recipes rather than matching either exactly (roughly 52.5%-58.3% hydration territory depending on how you calculate it) -- in practice this is a small enough difference that it shouldn't meaningfully change either loaf's outcome, but once split, each portion is fermenting on its own from that point forward. Judge each one by its own feel/timing, don't assume they'll hit "puffy and jiggly" on the same schedule -- the Dessert Loaf especially, since its added sugar slows fermentation somewhat. SPLIT RATIO: roughly 63% / 37% by weight (matching the original 600g / 350g flour split between the two source recipes) -- weigh the combined dough after the first fold and divide accordingly rather than eyeballing it, since an uneven split changes how each portion bakes (timing/size assumptions in the steps above assume a reasonably accurate split). See recipe #36 and #37 for the full individual context/history behind each portion's technique choices (egg's effect on the Large Soft Crust with Egg Loaf, the fruit-and-nut technique research for the Dessert Loaf) -- this recipe is the merged, single-session version of doing both from one dough. CORRECTED 09/08/26: the original split instruction only gave the flour-weight ratio (600g/350g, i.e. 63.2%/36.8%) without converting that into the actual total dough weight to divide by on a scale -- USR369 caught this gap. Fixed: step now states the real total combined dough weight (~1846.7g) and the actual gram split (1166g Large Soft Crust with Egg Loaf / 680g Dessert Loaf), applying the same 63.2%/36.8% ratio to the WHOLE dough (flour+water+starter+salt+malt+oil+egg+honey), not just the flour portion. MADE PERCENTAGE-BASED 09/08/26: USR369's actual dough weighed in at 1980g, not the theoretical 1846.7g -- real ingredient/measurement variance is normal batch to batch. Rewrote the split step so it leads with 'weigh your actual dough, split 63.2%/36.8%' as the primary method, with the theoretical grams kept only as an example, not something to rely on directly. This makes the recipe robust to normal variance instead of assuming an exact weight every time. FOLD TIMING SET 09/08/26: USR369 confirmed 1hr rest between folds (not the recipe's original 30-60min range), plus an additional ~10min to actually perform each fold -- so budget about 1hr10min per fold cycle, not a flat 1hr. REAL BAKE TIME + ELEVATION NOTE (added 09/09/26, from Bake #15, first real bake of this combined recipe) -- USR369 bakes at 5,500ft elevation. LARGE SOFT CRUST WITH EGG LOAF: result PERFECT, lid kept on the ENTIRE bake (deviation from the written step's covered~35-40min + uncovered 4-5min finish) because it was already browning well under the lid -- internal temp path 160F -> 180F -> ~200F, finished 205-210F. DESSERT LOAF: ran noticeably longer than the written covered ~25-30min + uncovered 8-12min (~33-42min total) -- real checkpoints were 25min covered -> 140F, +10min -> 160F, +10min -> 185-190F (lid off here, ~45min covered total), then +5min uncovered -> 202-204F, +5min more on an open sheet pan -> 204-205F with foil, +5min final -- total time to target close to 60min. This matches the platform's standing altitude finding (DoughCalc's altitude note, Sourdough Bake #1/#2 bottom-burn notes): above 5,000ft, bakes commonly run longer than the printed time at the same temp -- go by internal temp (205-210F), not the clock. UPDATED BAKE STEP FOR THIS ELEVATION: Dessert Loaf covered ~40-45min then uncover 10-15min watching color closely (sugar/fruit brown fast); Large Soft Crust with Egg Loaf, if browning well under the lid, keeping the lid on the whole bake (skipping the uncovered finish) is a reasonable call at this elevation rather than a fixed 35-40min+4-5min split.
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